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Post by TTX on Oct 1, 2024 4:05:48 GMT -5
Very crazy. RIP Charlie Hustle.
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Post by Pete on Oct 1, 2024 7:56:27 GMT -5
Hopefully death will do as much for Pete Rose's HOF chances as it did for Joe Jackson. I.e., nothing.
He broke baseball's most fundamental rule and agreed to a permanent (not "lifetime") ban. He deserves nothing.
And there's as much or more hard evidence connecting Pete Rose to steroids than there is for Sammy Sosa. In the '80s he was living with Paul Janzen, who in addition to placing bets on his behalf was also a steroids dealer.
I know the body isn't cold yet and I know that it's not the Hall of Good People, but Rose was a man absolutely bankrupt of moral character.
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Post by Vegas on Oct 1, 2024 21:53:55 GMT -5
Hopefully death will do as much for Pete Rose's HOF chances as it did for Joe Jackson. I.e., nothing. He broke baseball's most fundamental rule and agreed to a permanent (not "lifetime") ban. He deserves nothing. And there's as much or more hard evidence connecting Pete Rose to steroids than there is for Sammy Sosa. In the '80s he was living with Paul Janzen, who in addition to placing bets on his behalf was also a steroids dealer. I know the body isn't cold yet and I know that it's not the Hall of Good People, but Rose was a man absolutely bankrupt of moral character. While I do not condone what Pete Rose did, I don't consider betting on your team to win to be as bad as the Black Sox conspiring to throw the World Series for cash. I know Paul Janzen did steroids, but what is this "hard evidence" you mention that Pete Rose did steroids? If you don't want Pete Rose in the Hall of Fame, I must assume you are outraged that Ty Cobb is in the Hall of Fame?
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Post by Pete on Oct 2, 2024 6:48:16 GMT -5
Ty Cobb wasn't sunshine and rainbows but most of his rep both as a person and as a game-fixer comes from a complete smear campaign by Al Stump.
There is no "hard evidence" for Rose and steroids beyond the Janzen connection, but that was my point. Sosa had a similarly tenuous connection and everyone's comfortable blackballing him. If any '90s ballplayer was known to have lived with a dealer, that would be game, set, and match for them right there.
I don't believe Rose when he says he never bet against the Reds, but even if that's true it doesn't matter. MLB makes no such distinction and essentially any game where Rose doesn't bet at all is functionally a bet against them, and calls into question if Rose would play as hard or manage any differently.
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Post by jimsteel on Oct 2, 2024 20:30:40 GMT -5
Johnny Burrell, a former NFL wide receiver, passed away at the age of 83. The following is an excerpt from Burrell's online obituary: "Born and raised in Fort Worth, Texas, he attended Rice University in Houston, Texas on an athletic scholarship. While there he played both basketball and football as a freshman and was known as one of their most versatile all-around athletes. His sophomore year he focused exclusively on football and was a unanimous All-Southwest Conference team selection in 1960 and 1961. He played in the 1960 Sugar Bowl, the 1961 Bluebonnet Bowl, and the 1962 Hula Bowl. In 1962 Johnny was drafted into the National Football League where he played a combined 7 years for the Pittsburgh Steelers and the Washington Redskins. During his career he played in 56 NFL games and started in 26 of those contests. After retiring from the NFL, he enjoyed a successful career in sales with General Electric and Thompson Consumer Electronics. In 1982, Johnny was inducted into the Rice Football Hall of Fame."
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Post by jimsteel on Oct 2, 2024 20:33:14 GMT -5
ยท As a youth, Cirone played in the 1984 Quebec International Pee-Wee Hockey Tournament with a minor ice hockey team from Don Mills.[2] Jason Cirone, a former NHL center, passed away on at the age of 53 due to cancer complications. irone was drafted by the Winnipeg Jets in the third round (46th overall) in the 1989 NHL Entry Draft. He played junior hockey for the Cornwall Royals and Windsor Spitfires of the Ontario Hockey League. He appeared in 3 games with the Jets during the 1991-92 season. In August 1993, the Jets traded him to the Florida Panthers in exchange for forward Dave Tomlinson. Cirone had a successful career in minor league hockey. He played for the Moncton Hawks and Rochester Americans of the American Hockey League; and the Cincinnati Cyclones, Los Angeles Ice Dogs, Kansas City Blades, and Flint Generals of the International Hockey League. In 2006-07 he was a player-assistant coach with the Rio Grande Valley Killer Bees of the Central Hockey League. Cirone had two stints overseas for Asiago HC in the Italian Ice Hockey League in 1992-93 and then again from 2001-2006, and the Frankfurt Lions in the German Ice Hockey League in 2000-01. Cirone also spent two seasons playing roller hockey for the Buffalo Stampede in 1994 and 1995. Cirone holds an Italian passport, and played in the 2006 Winter Olympics in Turin, Italy as a member of the Italian team.
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Post by jimsteel on Oct 2, 2024 20:50:56 GMT -5
Bristol and Bath rugby star Nick Koster took his own life after asking to leave mental health hospital so he could go shopping, inquest hears he 34-year-old smiled as he left the facility in Attleborough, Norfolk, on July 11 last year, Wednesday's hearing in Norwich was told. Mental health nurse Charles Mwangi said there was 'no indication at all that he was suicidal or that his mental health had deteriorated'.
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Post by jimsteel on Oct 3, 2024 18:45:16 GMT -5
Harry Chappas, a former shortstop with the Chicago White Sox for parts of three seasons from 1978 to 1980, passed at the age of 66. Though he appeared in only 72 career games, he became a cult hero on the South Side due primarily to his stature. Chappas was measured by Harry Caray and publicly declared to be 5 ft 3 in, an inch or two shorter than established star Freddie Patek. He was one of the shortest players in Major League history, although Chappas stated in an interview in Sports Illustrated that he was closer to 5 ft 5 in, and implied that team owner Bill Veeck exaggerated his short stature for publicity reasons. Chappas' professional baseball career began with the barnstorming ex-Negro league Indianapolis Clowns, who had become racially integrated and had developed into more of an entertainment product than a competitive team. When Chappas later made his major league debut, he became the final player and first white player to make the major leagues from a team formerly a member of the Negro leagues. Chappas signed with the White Sox in 1976 as a sixth-round draft pick. He impressed Veeck with good performances for the Appleton Foxes in 1978. That earned Chappas a September callup, during which he hit an effective .267 in 20 games. Primarily due to his height, he gained more and more national interest, highlighted by an appearance on the cover of Sports Illustrated during spring training in 1979. In spring training that year, Chappas unseated veteran Don Kessinger and became the opening day shortstop. He lost his job two weeks after missing a sign as a baserunner, only returning in September. Chappas made the opening day roster the following year as well, but only as a reserve player, and he was subsequently sent to the minors after hitting .160 in 50 at bats. Overall, Chappas hit .245 in the majors and hit a single home run, off the Brewers' Bill Travers, in 1979.
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Post by jimsteel on Oct 5, 2024 7:13:11 GMT -5
NFL Hall of Famer Billy Shaw dead at 85: Buffalo Bills legend passes away from hyponatremia
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Post by jimsteel on Oct 5, 2024 7:22:00 GMT -5
Former NFL quarterback Greg Landry dies aged 77
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