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Post by TOM on Mar 19, 2024 14:33:30 GMT -5
"I want to explore more brand new characters, concepts, and groups. I want exploration of new planets."
I agree with many of the thoughts expressed here. There is a long-term plan, at the moment my GWF ideas are planned five years out. That means they won't reach fruition until 2028. This requires much patience on my part as I am eager to get to all of them.
As for new characters and concepts just wait until June! The Crime Stoppers have not been forgotten; they are yet another concept that is part of a plan.
And speaking of the Dark Menace book, I really need to focus on that after GCon. I have been laying groundwork and have an outline but need to get down to actual writing. I have even done research for updates on the Psychology of Creativity sections including the topic of aging and creativity, which is meaningful to just about anyone reading this.
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Post by Pete on Mar 19, 2024 17:09:35 GMT -5
I might be the only one here and these are just a portion of my thoughts. I love redoing Early Classics but I'm burnt out on nostalgia and alternate universes and what ifs. To me, this is a gigantic problem all across pop culture right now, not just COTG. Sequel/franchise culture is one thing, but I'm just completely over every villain and alternate-universe needing to have origin prequels where we basically already know the ending. I don't know if it's sustainable for the GWF to at all times have an AniMen team, a Gladiator team, a Titan team, an FDF-type team, etc. Even if Tom does a decent job of changing up the formula like when he brought back the Royal Court. I know this is blasphemous but maybe the recent revelations about Aethrans needs to result in a huge home crisis resulting in the Gladiators going away entirely for a little while. Or the current AniMen burn out and there's a waiting period before the next generation is ready (I can buy that Andromedans and Aethrans are a wrestling culture, sort of like how Minnesota produces more great wrestlers per capita than other areas of the U.S., but do they necessarily need to be a GWF constant for 50-odd years?) Use that time to build up new worlds, new concepts, and new teams, and make us miss the classics for a little bit once they've gone away. |
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Post by TTX on Mar 19, 2024 18:44:33 GMT -5
At this point, I no longer worry about it. I just pick who I want to use and go from there so I'd be fine if Tom cut out a few of those groups for a while and explore or re-explore new locations or locations he used for a bit and then left.
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Post by Pete on Mar 19, 2024 21:05:18 GMT -5
At this point, I no longer worry about it. I just pick who I want to use and go from there so I'd be fine if Tom cut out a few of those groups for a while and explore or re-explore new locations or locations he used for a bit and then left. I mean, yes, it's always "up to you, promoter," but if the official story doesn't matter at all, why write it? Why do we get invested in it? It's also harder to pick and choose new talent to use when so much from 2139 revolves around groups from the 2080s in one way or another. Edit: To my prequel-mania point from a couple posts ago, just a little bit ago during the NCAA tournament first four games, I saw a preview for The First Omen. I mean, come ON! |
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Post by on_the_edge on Mar 20, 2024 20:53:17 GMT -5
I might be the only one here and these are just a portion of my thoughts. I love redoing Early Classics but I'm burnt out on nostalgia and alternate universes and what ifs. To me, this is a gigantic problem all across pop culture right now, not just COTG. Sequel/franchise culture is one thing, but I'm just completely over every villain and alternate-universe needing to have origin prequels where we basically already know the ending. I don't know if it's sustainable for the GWF to at all times have an AniMen team, a Gladiator team, a Titan team, an FDF-type team, etc. Even if Tom does a decent job of changing up the formula like when he brought back the Royal Court. I know this is blasphemous but maybe the recent revelations about Aethrans needs to result in a huge home crisis resulting in the Gladiators going away entirely for a little while. Or the current AniMen burn out and there's a waiting period before the next generation is ready (I can buy that Andromedans and Aethrans are a wrestling culture, sort of like how Minnesota produces more great wrestlers per capita than other areas of the U.S., but do they necessarily need to be a GWF constant for 50-odd years?) Use that time to build up new worlds, new concepts, and new teams, and make us miss the classics for a little bit once they've gone away. So true. It is one of the reasons I stopped following stories in comic books. I will say COTG is a bit different and TTX touched on that. The main story line IS still going and one can choose to just stick with that if they want. For those that want more or alternative ideas there are sets for that. Going back to comics it is what made What If so great back in the day. You could see different story ideas without messing the main ones. As far as the EC it is nice for players like myself who did not get them the first time around because I, like the kids say, "stepped out of the game for minute". I am enjoying the EC and even the color re-releases as I was gone during the whole CPC era and am waiting to be able to go thru it this second time around. That is an interesting point. On one hand I would miss the Gladiators, not so much other teams, but on the other hand it might be nice to see other worlds in the vast galaxy/universe be represented. The other teams do not have to be unrepresented for a few years, especially Aethrans, but less of a focus. Writing the Aethrans out would be easy as they could be in a war and the wrestlers are needed elsewhere or they get banned for a couple/few years due to the waring going on. The key to bringing in new races is the originality of the creativity. You do not want races that resemble ones that came before too much and yet you do not want something too different just for difference sake. They have to be able to fit into the game system, seem cool and have ability to grow. |
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Post by on_the_edge on Mar 20, 2024 20:56:13 GMT -5
At this point, I no longer worry about it. I just pick who I want to use and go from there so I'd be fine if Tom cut out a few of those groups for a while and explore or re-explore new locations or locations he used for a bit and then left. I mean, yes, it's always "up to you, promoter," but if the official story doesn't matter at all, why write it? Why do we get invested in it? It's also harder to pick and choose new talent to use when so much from 2139 revolves around groups from the 2080s in one way or another. Edit: To my prequel-mania point from a couple posts ago, just a little bit ago during the NCAA tournament first four games, I saw a preview for The First Omen. I mean, come ON! ZERO reason to redo the original Omen. Now, if they wanted to redo the sequels, which I did not like as much, I would not be too much against that. I mean if they are hellbent on redoing movies do the ones that had a good idea that did not come to fruition either due to low budget, bad actors, bad special effects or other issues. |
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Post by Drew on Mar 21, 2024 17:07:05 GMT -5
"I want to explore more brand new characters, concepts, and groups. I want exploration of new planets." I agree with many of the thoughts expressed here. There is a long-term plan, at the moment my GWF ideas are planned five years out. That means they won't reach fruition until 2028. This requires much patience on my part as I am eager to get to all of them. As for new characters and concepts just wait until June! The Crime Stoppers have not been forgotten; they are yet another concept that is part of a plan. And speaking of the Dark Menace book, I really need to focus on that after GCon. I have been laying groundwork and have an outline but need to get down to actual writing. I have even done research for updates on the Psychology of Creativity sections including the topic of aging and creativity, which is meaningful to just about anyone reading this. You could always go back to 2 sets a year. So we.. I mean you wouldn’t have to wait for the story to play out.. I mean u have to be good to yourself Tom 😂 |
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Post by FCB72 on Mar 26, 2024 10:09:26 GMT -5
I think that FTR,Kronos and Future Shock would be great to continue in Promotor Prime with mini-handbooks that update you with what has been going on in the feds.I understand what Pete is saying about the GWF exploring new worlds and developing new characters.His idea of teams like the Titans,Gladiators,Ani-Men taking a break from the GWF could be tied into a bigger storyline like there was another fed that has been developing that is near or becomes as big as the GWF and the teams need a fresh start and go there for awhile.
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Post by Chad Olson on Apr 5, 2024 21:58:40 GMT -5
PROMOTER PRIME As always, it's important to evaluate and re-evaluate what we offer. We will offer Promoter Prime the same way in 2024 as we have in the recent past, but we will also re-evaluate its value to loyal promoters. Perhaps it has outlived its purpose. I am open to ideas and you guys are the experts. Feel free to share your thoughts on the pros and cons of Promoter Prime. Should we just collapse all our cards into our regular releases or is there a place for certain cards to be released separately as PP cards? As Hamlet says, "That is the question." When I think back to the beginnings of the game, 14 year old me would have been over the moon to receive new cards every 3 months! I think it can advance storylines for the COTG lines, and provides a great outlet for releasing Legends and Indie wrestlers who may not fit with a particular set's theme, or can add additional wrestlers to that theme's roster. I say keep the Promoter Prime releases! |
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Post by LAWraith on Apr 6, 2024 20:47:53 GMT -5
Was just talking to someone else about this. I like prime.
One thought I still subscribe to and think secret history should have been ... the biggest thing CotG needs is something like free agents. I wish CotG prime was 12 cards that were art, stats and a very brief bio BUT could be placed anywhere in the timeline. For someone in 2087 and needs female wrestlers for a women's division could fill women wrestlers there. Someone in 2096 and there's an injury they could use one of the prime cards. Someone wants to fill out their CPC fed could use these free agent cards.
We don't always need a story or how they connect to the grand scheme. Maybe their just a guy and you the promoter get to tell their story.
Free Agents could be women, tag teams, cruiserweights, curtain jerkers, midcarders and even top guys. I think it would give you not only more options but I think more people subscribing cause they would have more range. Just my thought.
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