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Post by TOM on Sept 12, 2010 15:41:19 GMT -5
Hey there Legends of Wrestling promoters! I'm here to seek your collective wisdom. Filsinger Games is nothing without the true experts---YOU!
LEGENDSonline is a cool addition to our offerings but COTGonline is still more successful. My goal is to make LEGENDSonline really special, a must-have for Legends fans and a draw for new players.
Do me a favor and let me know some really cool things we could do to make LEGENDSonline as awesome as it can be. We already added photos instead of drawings. What else could we do?
Please keep it realistic...something we could reasonably implement.
THANKS!!!
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Post by marktaggart on Sept 12, 2010 16:15:36 GMT -5
Multiple stat sets to choose from, representing different eras in a wrestler's career. Say for instance, "prime" Harley Race (like the print version of the card), "King" Harley Race, Harley Race from early in his career when he was primarily a tag team wrestler with Larry Hennig, ect. It wouldn't be practical to do this in print form, but I should think it'd be pretty easy to do in online format.
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Post by jasonjaconetti on Sept 12, 2010 17:09:34 GMT -5
Mark nailed it on the head. It would be like the different cards for COTG characters as they age.
Also, more matche-types would be great: Dog-Collar Match, Singapre Can Match, 8-Man Tag Team Match, 8-Man Survival Match, Ladder Match, Royal Rumble Match, and a Coffin Match.
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Post by toasterboy on Sept 12, 2010 18:05:14 GMT -5
I completely understand that many folks just innately hate Apple and Apple products. But not having a website that is viewable and workable on iPads and iPhones shuts out a huge and growing marketplace. I'm not talking about a LegendsOnline App for iPhone or iPad. THat's something else (that would be very cool). I'm talking about a website that's formatted and fully workable on the iPad/iphone. As I've detailed in this thread there are limitations to LEGENDSOnline as it is - filsingergames.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=online&thread=5177&page=1#76535 - when it comes to the iPad/iPhone. As I've said there's legitimate (and not so legitimate) people hate Apple and their products but the sales speak for themselves. Imagine if you could promote that the website is fully compatible (Game Table, Stat Tracker, PBP Sim) with the iPhone/iPad and people could play from anywhere? You could submit the site to apple review places, etc and open the door on this market. Would it take TIME to implement? Sure. But I don't see it as something that would be unreasonable to implement. I'd love to see the two player game table finally happen. Also individual cards (Á la carte) instead of sets. There's just some guys I'll never use. Selectable Venue list for each card. (Would love this for the COTG Tracker as well) You can choose from the list or enter your own. Being able to add a star rating to non-wrestling segments that add to the overall rating of the show (as well as being able to add who was in the segments to give them a boost in the rankings as well. Historical commissioners or ranking committees based on legendary feds (AWA, Memphis, NWA, etc). Being able to delete Title, Tag Teams, etc that are entered in.
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Post by TOM on Sept 12, 2010 18:14:50 GMT -5
Grant, is the iPad issue the same for COTGonline?
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Post by toasterboy on Sept 12, 2010 18:46:57 GMT -5
Grant, is the iPad issue the same for COTGonline? Yes. It has the same limitations for both sides. Just tested it out. Another thought, what if we could make our Fed results public? For people who don't have websites. You could have a username and then a domain - www.filsingergames.com/low/ToasterBoy - to point folks to to see the results in your fed. If you could do this (or if results of our individual feds were public) you could add facebook integration - developers.facebook.com/ - so fans could share their results on their facebook pages and thereby providing instant (free!!) publicity for the game. If things cannot be made public, it might be fun to be able to comment on other people's feds within LOWOnline. Make the inside of LOWOnline more 'social'.
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Post by jasonjaconetti on Sept 12, 2010 19:26:34 GMT -5
Also, I would love to see CAC cards available for Battle Royals. That is a real limitaion with the Battle Royals, as I have 50+ CAC guys for LOWOnline alone. (They are the guys who don't have cards released for LOWOnline but have official cards: ie: French Angel, Bryan Danielson, Nigel McGuinness, etc...)
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Post by squire on Sept 15, 2010 20:01:12 GMT -5
Best bet is to write to apple and tell them to use web standards and stop acting like microsoft. Ajax, cascading style sheets, and javascript should work just fine. Google has the same issues with the browser on the driod (at least 2.1 and prior. I'll check again when I can upgrade to 2.2)
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Post by wildfire on Sept 15, 2010 20:48:41 GMT -5
No offense, Squire, but I'm pretty sure Grant's not gonna be able to get Apple to change their corporate policy... it would take a whole lot more people that even every person to have ever played COTG, I'd think. I am definitely one of those that HATE apple with a passion, but I don't deny what he said is 100% true.
For me, the biggest barrier to playing online is the lack of two player functionality. I remember WAY back when things were still in development and thinking about all the wonderful possibilities there... it's very unfortunate that it's never happened.
LOVE the idea of alternate stat sets.. that would be really sweet.
here's a few other little ideas:
--backgrounds that represent classic feds... maybe a MSG shot with the old WWF logo.... the interview set from JCP, that sorta thing.
--To expand upon the idea of having a drop down with venues... why not add attendance? Whipping up a little formula to take the card rating and come up with a number(probably I'd calculate it as a % of capacity, then spit out the actual number) would be pretty easy, and be some nice 'color'
-- I'd love to see all the components fully integrated... have the pbp sim get your results into your card ALL the time, and make it so you can set match options if you do so... maybe have it automatically update the title, too, if you call it a title match. Heck, a few stock descriptions based on the results to give some kinda brief summary probably wouldn't even be impossible.
-- I agree with Grant that more social-ness would be good...I'm not sure I want to have to go to another place to see results, though. Maybe some way to directly link your results to the fed forum? Or a script where once you set it up with your id and the thread where you could press a 'post card' button and it took and posted the BBCode version of the card by itself?
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Post by pikemojo on Sept 15, 2010 23:40:55 GMT -5
To be completely honest I could care less (in general) if there are a bunch of different versions of the different wrestlers in LOW Online. I don't need an AWA Hennig or Memphis style Jim Duggan. I just simply won't use them.
The biggest thing for me is the overall interface for setting up and running each card. I find it incredibly cumbersome. I was very excited for the initial release and purchased all 3 sets + Andre. I think I have played a total of 2 cards. I am not a computer illiterate person by any means but I just find it too difficult/time consuming to set up a card and simply run or play each of the matches that I have set up for that card.
Then it would be nice to have a good way to post the card and track all the results and history of the fed. Like Grant said, it would be cool to be able to personalize your fed's page. I know some of this is possible but it could definitely be expanded.
The one thing that I have loved with LOW Online has been the CAC. I love learning about vintage wrestlers and trying to create LOW cards for them. There is no easier way to do it than Online. Plus it is easy to test the card against the other cards in the game. I would like to see more and more CAC art released since we are unable to upload our own pictures.
I would like to be able to choose whether to use photos or the classic LOW art. I much prefer the art. I also think some of the photos of the wrestlers look nothing like them. John Pesek comes to mind as one where I would much prefer the art over the photo.
I think if more of the cards that we have in cardstock were Online I would be more willing to play Online. Mil Mascaras is one of my favorites and it is hard to give up my champ just so I can play Online.
I like the possibilities of LOW Online more than I like it currently. As for right now I prefer to do it the old fashioned way...a pair of dice and a pad of paper.
I also like the Promoter Online and how it fits right in to the Online platform.
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