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Post by Cernunnos on Aug 16, 2011 16:46:24 GMT -5
Rahl Ratings:
Sting: 49(52)
Bill Goldberg: 49
"Macho Man" Randy Savage: 45(48)
"Hollywood" Hulk Hogan: 45
Kevin Nash: 42(45)
Scott Hall: 40(46)
DDP: 40(43) / 38(41)
Giant: 39(40)
Lex Luger: 38(41)
Ric Flair: 36(43)
Curt Hennig: 36(40)
Meng: 36(37)
Scott Steiner: 35(39) [As Steiner Brothers tag team]
Chris Benoit: 35(38)
Wrath: 35(38)
Bam Bam Bigelow: 35(36)
Rick Steiner: 34/38(50) [As Steiner Brothers tag team]
Booker T.: 34(44) [As Harlem Heat tag team]
Barbarian: 33(36)
Stevie Ray: 32(41) [As Harlem Heat tag team]
"Buff" Bagwell: 30(36)
Kanyon: 29(33)
Arn Anderson: 26(33)
"Screamin'" Norman Smiley: 22(23)
Thoughts or comments on just the ratings alone?
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Post by TTX on Aug 16, 2011 17:48:15 GMT -5
I'd put Flair higher (he was still a title contender through the whole time) and Barbarian definitely lower...Stevie Ray's singles lower, Rick Steiner's singles lower, Kanyon lower, Arn maybe a slight bit higher.
Frank Gotch is a mere 41, you're saying that Rick Steiner is almost as good a singles wrestler as a guy who held the world title for 6 years?
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Post by Cernunnos on Aug 16, 2011 18:53:37 GMT -5
Frank Gotch is a mere 41, you're saying that Rick Steiner is almost as good a singles wrestler as a guy who held the world title for 6 years? I'm saying Rick Steiner is a hell of a better wrestler than Goldberg... hell even Sting... but I'm taking into account a lot of factors. I personally think Steiner was an awesome wrestler... but he just never got pushes... |
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Post by TTX on Aug 16, 2011 19:03:39 GMT -5
And in the end, that's what their stats need to reflect. Was Goldberg a good wrestler? No, did he get a huge push, yes. Therefore statistically his card should be higher.
Rick should be an awesome tag wrestlers and a fairly good singles wrestler (30-35 range should be fine.)
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Post by Cernunnos on Aug 16, 2011 20:57:05 GMT -5
Edits made...
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Post by mattstarman on Aug 24, 2011 19:34:18 GMT -5
So, how does one go about getting any of these sets that you are making?
I'm interested in them but completely lost
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Post by Cernunnos on Aug 25, 2011 5:18:14 GMT -5
So, how does one go about getting any of these sets that you are making? I'm interested in them but completely lost You will know. Cards will be available soon enough!  |
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Post by johnandryan on Oct 11, 2011 16:43:05 GMT -5
Good Evening Chuck,
thanks for making these available for the community. It is greatly appreciated.
I am probably the biggest WCW fan here, as Swarm and others will attest, so I had some comments for the set. Please do not view them as negative; they are intended to be viewed as constructive for the betterment of this and future sets in general.
My first thought upon viewing the cards is that some of them - Bagwell in particular, Savage and Sting are much too strong. There is a chance that Bagwell's finisher is as strong as the Giant's - clearly for the timeframe, this is not possible. Bagwell should not have 3 L3 moves on L2. he just shouldn't.
Similarly, I am taking this timeframe from 1995-1999, with the men that you featured. I think your Flair is too strong for this timeframe. I do not think adding to his finisher occurred as much then - he was losing too much and when he was winning, he was doing so with help.
I would have loved to see an NWO or Outside interference chart accompany this set. Many/Most finishes in the big matches then were never clean. The NWO itself never won without some sort of help, if I am remembering correctly. If we are going for realism, this needs to be addressed. Same with the DQ's - I think their NWO dq's should be higher.
I also think the set, for the timeframe, has glaring omissions - I know that Jericho and Malenko are in the cruiserweight set - but Piper, for instance, the Nasty Boys, Public Enemy, etc. I think their inclusion would have made the set stronger.
I love DDP's ribs gimmick, but how come you omitted the Diamond Cutter mechanic from the L3 Defense?
All in all, I think this is a good effort, but if we are trying to recreate cards as realistic as possible for the timeframe, I think these tweaks would make the set much stronger.
Please let me know if you need any clarification.
thanks - JRN
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Post by wyldesyd on Oct 12, 2011 11:56:03 GMT -5
Another awesome set Chuck . Can't wait for the WWE Attitude Set .
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Post by Justin Case on Oct 12, 2011 18:01:07 GMT -5
fun set, I enjoyed looking at them. fond memories! Maybe one day I'll get them printed off and try 'em out!? Thanks for sharing them!
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