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Post by lordhumongous on Aug 29, 2013 10:38:30 GMT -5
At the Fan Expo in Toronto Canada Hulk Hogan and Eric Bischoff did a q & a segment and Hogan in all his wisdom said there were twp things that TNA could do in order to succeed. Those two things are put Bischoff in charge and give him an unlimited budget. Of course the unlimited budget would be in a perfect world. Seriously don't these two remember a certain promotion called WCW. Hogan with his ego and perception of being bigger than the entire wrestling industry used his creative control to bury WCW. Bischoff had great ideas, he unleashed the NWO on to the wrestling world. Sadly once the wild horse was in the corral he had no idea how to ride it. Why repeat the same process over and expect different results. Its obvious TNA will never come close to competing with the WWE, not only is the Carter family not even in control but they put their success or failure in the hands of people who have proved before they can't come up with a finish even if they catch a big wave of success. Hogan and Bischoff have done nothing for TNA in terms of ratings or production value. While they have some great in ring talent they lack the gripping angles and storylines.
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Post by aceldamas on Aug 29, 2013 11:12:17 GMT -5
Put any of the promoters on this board in charge with an unlimited budget and they would do better.
What a simplistic statement. Then again, what do you expect from Hogan?
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Post by lordhumongous on Aug 29, 2013 13:50:40 GMT -5
Put any of the promoters on this board in charge with an unlimited budget and they would do better. What a simplistic statement. Then again, what do you expect from Hogan? You are so right, there is a quite a few people on this board that could do a better job for TNA. Sadly even with a blank check Bischoff still could not get it right in WCW.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2013 13:58:29 GMT -5
Bischoff got it to a degree - get the top international talent to have good matches and put the "superstars" in the main event, that way you appeal to everybody. The problem is they pushed Goldberg to the moon and took every chance possible to have Bischoff's buddies bury the shit out of him until the fans just stopped caring.
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Post by lordhumongous on Aug 29, 2013 16:41:19 GMT -5
Bischoff got it to a degree - get the top international talent to have good matches and put the "superstars" in the main event, that way you appeal to everybody. The problem is they pushed Goldberg to the moon and took every chance possible to have Bischoff's buddies bury the shit out of him until the fans just stopped caring. Yep totally agree! But while Bischoff got it he didn't know what to do with it. The NWO was the biggest thing going in its day. Then Bischoff woke one day and was clueless. Soon there was two versions of the NWO and everybody and there brother was a member which made the whole thing lose its value fast. Even with the Goldberg thing, letting Hogan and Nash have creative control was doom from the start, their egos took over and the bad decisions started.
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Post by chewey on Aug 29, 2013 17:03:51 GMT -5
Bischoff got it to a degree - get the top international talent to have good matches and put the "superstars" in the main event, that way you appeal to everybody. The problem is they pushed Goldberg to the moon and took every chance possible to have Bischoff's buddies bury the shit out of him until the fans just stopped caring. One of the problems with this strategy though was that the workers and mechanics who put in the most amount of effort and consistently had the show stealing moments eventually got tired of being held down and not paid the amount of money the top guys were, while the top guys didn't even take near the physical risks or spend the energy. Then the Radicalz left for the WWF where they got treated very well, and the workers/mechanics were never happy in WCW again. Unfortunately, for this reason I'm not sure the Bischoff formula is sustainable long term when you have two successful rival promotions.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2013 17:21:57 GMT -5
One of the problems with this strategy though was that the workers and mechanics who put in the most amount of effort and consistently had the show stealing moments eventually got tired of being held down and not paid the amount of money the top guys were, while the top guys didn't even take near the physical risks or spend the energy. So basically like TNA since its inception.
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Post by chewey on Aug 29, 2013 18:33:47 GMT -5
One of the problems with this strategy though was that the workers and mechanics who put in the most amount of effort and consistently had the show stealing moments eventually got tired of being held down and not paid the amount of money the top guys were, while the top guys didn't even take near the physical risks or spend the energy. So basically like TNA since its inception. Ha. Now we are right back on topic! If the big names actually drew and everyone made more money, no one would care about ex-WWE guys hogging the top of the card. WCW in the early nWo days certainly was in that position. However I'm not sure Hogan has drawn any additional eyes to the promotion, and it was always my understanding that people will watch TNA for free, but their ppv buy rates were always like a tenth of what their impact rating was. And I will often see last year's TNA DVDs bundled in a two pack for like five bucks in a package deal. Before when they didn't even tour house shows, where on earth did they get any revenue from other than advertisers?
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Post by Nick_Nuke on Aug 29, 2013 19:01:02 GMT -5
Wasn't iEinstein that said: "Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results". This letting Bischoff have total control with Hogan. I agree most of the promoters on the board can do a better job I love reading their ideas and post. I want to use some their ideas in my fed when I start back up
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Post by pikemojo on Aug 29, 2013 20:41:26 GMT -5
Wasn't iEinstein that said: "Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results". This letting Bischoff have total control with Hogan. I agree most of the promoters on the board can do a better job I love reading their ideas and post. I want to use some their ideas in my fed when I start back up The thing is there are two Eric Bischoffs. There is the Bischoff that took WCW to the top and there is the Eric Bischoff that put WCW out of business. TNA is hoping that the Bischoff they have in control is that first Bischoff but smarks all think he is the latter. TNA is far from perfect but in my opinion the stories have been better since Bischoff came around. They seem to be planning more long term although things do seem to be falling apart a little right now. I hope they are able to get things figured out and able to right the ship. TNA doesn't need to rival WWE, they just need to put out a good product and pull decent enough ratings.
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