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Post by LAWraith on Sept 24, 2020 6:55:25 GMT -5
So I have watched a lot of AEW and their past stuff in ROH, I dont understand their push. Everyone seems to love them but they just seem to set up spots and do flips and dives. They dont really seem like wrestlers. Am I terrible wrestling fan? Is their something I'm missing?
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Post by Travis605 on Sept 24, 2020 7:41:51 GMT -5
I work for Cornette, so one of my job requirements is to hate the Young Bucks lol
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Post by Swarm on Sept 24, 2020 8:13:21 GMT -5
While I love their presentation (blows NXT away) there is a bunch of stuff in AEW I don’t get.
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Post by Tournament Master on Sept 24, 2020 8:13:24 GMT -5
So I have watched a lot of AEW and their past stuff in ROH, I dont understand their push. Everyone seems to love them but they just seem to set up spots and do flips and dives. They dont really seem like wrestlers. Am I terrible wrestling fan? Is their something I'm missing? Young Bucks are certain divisive. If you are a more traditional style wrestling fan then I can understand not enjoying them. They really leaned into the super indy flippy boy style and their matches are mostly that kind of wrestling. They also gained a bunch of fans through their Being the Elite Youtube show. Both their wrestling style and the youtube show really poke fun at the traditional wrestling model. Some fans love it and others hate it. I am certainly on the pro-Young Bucks side as what they do appeals to my wrestling fandom, but don't fault anyone for not being onboard what they do. |
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Post by LAWraith on Sept 24, 2020 9:20:02 GMT -5
I gotta go with Swarm here, I really want AEW to succeed but theres just something I'm not getting hooked by i guess i will say. I forget it's on it's not something I feel I need to see.
Yeah I think I am more a traditional fan. I always thought WWE was cartoony but I find myself believing more in a Hulk Hogan wrestling match than I do the Young Bucks in a match. A big boot by Hogan looks more real than a back flip off the ropes. Its illogical, why am I gonna backflip off the top rope to the outside when if the guy just sidesteps you miss and die. Go outside and punch him in the face.
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Post by Swarm on Sept 24, 2020 9:45:43 GMT -5
I gotta go with Swarm here, I really want AEW to succeed but theres just something I'm not getting hooked by i guess i will say. I forget it's on it's not something I feel I need to see. Yeah I think I am more a traditional fan. I always thought WWE was cartoony but I find myself believing more in a Hulk Hogan wrestling match than I do the Young Bucks in a match. A big boot by Hogan looks more real than a back flip off the ropes. Its illogical, why am I gonna backflip off the top rope to the outside when if the guy just sidesteps you miss and die. Go outside and punch him in the face. I feel like AEW is like the inner circle of wrestling - like, you have to be on Reddit and reading Meltzer to fully get it. Sometimes it plays like it’s a straight up anti WWE fed. Sometimes it plays like it’s one big inside joke for smart fans. This isn’t a good or bad thing just something I’ve noticed and why I feel so lost sometimes watching it. For example - I consider the FG community to be exactly the kind of fan AEW is for - really hardcore, smart fans who are super knowledgeable about the Indy scene etc...so because of this community I know who Eddie Kingston and Warhorse and Orange Cassidy and all these other guys are - but without the community I’d be mostly lost on them. So when AEW uses these guys (and many others) they don’t really explain who they are - you just kind of have to know. And if you don’t, you’re lost. Hope that makes sense, but for me that’s the “thing” about AEW that hasn’t fully clicked for me yet. |
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Post by Travis605 on Sept 24, 2020 10:42:39 GMT -5
I gotta go with Swarm here, I really want AEW to succeed but theres just something I'm not getting hooked by i guess i will say. I forget it's on it's not something I feel I need to see. Yeah I think I am more a traditional fan. I always thought WWE was cartoony but I find myself believing more in a Hulk Hogan wrestling match than I do the Young Bucks in a match. A big boot by Hogan looks more real than a back flip off the ropes. Its illogical, why am I gonna backflip off the top rope to the outside when if the guy just sidesteps you miss and die. Go outside and punch him in the face. I feel like AEW is like the inner circle of wrestling - like, you have to be on Reddit and reading Meltzer to fully get it. Sometimes it plays like it’s a straight up anti WWE fed. Sometimes it plays like it’s one big inside joke for smart fans. This isn’t a good or bad thing just something I’ve noticed and why I feel so lost sometimes watching it. For example - I consider the FG community to be exactly the kind of fan AEW is for - really hardcore, smart fans who are super knowledgeable about the Indy scene etc...so because of this community I know who Eddie Kingston and Warhorse and Orange Cassidy and all these other guys are - but without the community I’d be mostly lost on them. So when AEW uses these guys (and many others) they don’t really explain who they are - you just kind of have to know. And if you don’t, you’re lost. Hope that makes sense, but for me that’s the “thing” about AEW that hasn’t fully clicked for me yet. They are basically running their promotion like a niche territory promotion from the 70s/80s, which is fine, except they’re running a national promotion that hasn’t grown their audience (and probably never will). There was a huge fan base (of lapsed WCW fans/older school fans) that were dying for any kind of alternative to the wwe. TNA became worse than the wwe, so there as slight hope for AEW, but they lost that (most of the old school fans that watch are those that listen to Cornettes podcast to keep up). |
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Post by LAWraith on Sept 24, 2020 12:20:16 GMT -5
That's another great point, I wouldnt knoe who any of these guys are and then they dont introduce them.
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Post by Vegas on Sept 24, 2020 13:22:52 GMT -5
Speaking of AEW, I have not seen last night's show yet but I heard that CWFH's current Hollywood Heritage Champion Ray Rosas debuted in AEW last night.
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Post by on_the_edge on Sept 24, 2020 15:39:58 GMT -5
I was not much of a fan of them when they were Generation Me in TNA and seemed to get a lot of love. Over time they have grown on me. Still not my faves but they are enjoyable. In a way it is like watching a kung-fu movie. Sure some of the stuff is over the top but it is wrestling. For legit fights I will watch MMA. For the record I enjoy traditional, hard hitting matches as well. My ideal show is a mix of everything. Traditional, high flying, hardcore, heck even a comedy match now and then. The main thing I want is to be entertained.
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