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Post by Swarm on Feb 1, 2023 16:02:41 GMT -5
I was 100% by the book guy forever despite being gravely disappointed and let down by many characters storylines (Mother Superior was the first one that really bothered me). When Tom got me all pumped up for a big Sudden Death with that Crime Stoppers set — then the next set we found out it meant nothing — that really burst my bubble, I’m loyal to a fault - working hard on being more loyal to myself, including my fed. It’s too late to write a great ending story for Mother Superior, Hector and others, but I’m going to try and not make the same mistakes again with some current guys. MONOLITH getting downgraded in the book because Tom didn’t want him beating Apex is another one. That never felt right to me so I didn’t do it. Far as mixing them - no different than LOW. They all have 18 moves, 4 chart ratings etc…all cards are designed using the same rules. I’ve done it and will continue to do it. Same here. I've been by the book since the beginning and just recently started changing things to suit what I wanted. Little things at first, tag teams and team names, who is heel or face, now storylines (ex. I put Sabre, DOT and the reimagined Executioner together in 2136 and they are crushing my Trios titles) I can always course correct down the line if I want. I won't be downgrading Monolith either the same way I didn't downgrade Thunder or anyone else in 2118. If the card says it, I'll do it, until then, fight with the stats you got. Decided to give this subject its own thread. Stats changes via the handbooks. How do you feel about them? Yay or nay? I’ve never been a fan. I may have even done it myself a time or two, which just leaves a bad taste in my mouth. I think it’s a real Get out of Jail free situation when stat changes of any kind can occur in a handbook. I think it takes a real commitment to write a character, and I don’t like the idea of 2139 or any other set possibly including downgraded stats (or even upgraded) in the book. I think it damages the integrity and expectation of the playing cards. Like when End of Days got a super high PIN rating and just faded away. Or like MONOLITH getting a downgrade so Grand Master, Apex and Havoc wouldn’t lose to him too often. Not a fan. If it’s not on the card, and I have to reference one of many handbooks to play a character, that’s a hassle. Anybody else have an opinion on this? I can certainly see how others might not care at all about stat changes in the book. But for me, it’s a nay. |
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Post by squire on Feb 1, 2023 16:29:16 GMT -5
IMO if you are going to change the stats, release a new card. The card is the gospel when I play.
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Post by Dustin on Feb 1, 2023 16:50:37 GMT -5
IMO if you are going to change the stats, release a new card. The card is the gospel when I play. This is where I am, honestly. |
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Post by on_the_edge on Feb 1, 2023 16:59:43 GMT -5
In my opinion, you should have had a third choice in the poll. One for "meh". I am neither for or against it. I have pretty much always looked at the rules as a guideline but not set in stone. I am going to do what I want. I respect the rules and those that follow them to the T but it is not for me. Heck, I adjust stats on the cards myself sometimes.
That being said, I am not a big fan of things being in the handbook that are needed to play. About one of the few things I use is the Basilisk chart for early advantage. I too do not want to have to keep looking at books for things just so I can play the game. It is why I wish the COTG Wiki was up to date, at least as far as finishers for wrestlers. Sometimes I forget what a move is and mostly I need to know if it leads to a pin or a submission.
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Post by TTX on Feb 1, 2023 17:13:24 GMT -5
Online changes the cards but yeah, things that are in the booklet (not just card adjustments but charts and the like) should be easily accessible.
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Post by Big Bri on Feb 1, 2023 17:19:59 GMT -5
IMO if you are going to change the stats, release a new card. The card is the gospel when I play. What he said. |
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Post by Pariah on Feb 1, 2023 20:06:30 GMT -5
In my opinion, you should have had a third choice in the poll. One for "meh". I am neither for or against it. I have pretty much always looked at the rules as a guideline but not set in stone. I am going to do what I want. I respect the rules and those that follow them to the T but it is not for me. Heck, I adjust stats on the cards myself sometimes. That being said, I am not a big fan of things being in the handbook that are needed to play. About one of the few things I use is the Basilisk chart for early advantage. I too do not want to have to keep looking at books for things just so I can play the game. It is why I wish the COTG Wiki was up to date, at least as far as finishers for wrestlers. Sometimes I forget what a move is and mostly I need to know if it leads to a pin or a submission. Put me down as another "meh" vote... When you're talking about COTG, I can see a valid reason for making stat adjustments in the handbook... After all, creating a new card for a wrestler takes up valuable real estate in a set... And I would hate to see this happen for the sake of a few minor upgrades/downgrades in order to reflect where certain wrestlers should place in the current food chain. Guess I'm a little surprised this is even a topic of discussion... Especially when I consider that I was once told that using custom mechanics, charts, etc. is actually frowned upon (which is crazy in itself since there are so many bootlegs out there making regular appearances)... Bottom line is I'm not opposed to any changes are made in the handbooks because I'm going to use whatever suits my gameplay at any given time. |
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Post by on_the_edge on Feb 1, 2023 20:30:52 GMT -5
In my opinion, you should have had a third choice in the poll. One for "meh". I am neither for or against it. I have pretty much always looked at the rules as a guideline but not set in stone. I am going to do what I want. I respect the rules and those that follow them to the T but it is not for me. Heck, I adjust stats on the cards myself sometimes. That being said, I am not a big fan of things being in the handbook that are needed to play. About one of the few things I use is the Basilisk chart for early advantage. I too do not want to have to keep looking at books for things just so I can play the game. It is why I wish the COTG Wiki was up to date, at least as far as finishers for wrestlers. Sometimes I forget what a move is and mostly I need to know if it leads to a pin or a submission. Put me down as another "meh" vote... When you're talking about COTG, I can see a valid reason for making stat adjustments in the handbook... After all, creating a new card for a wrestler takes up valuable real estate in a set... And I would hate to see this happen for the sake of a few minor upgrades/downgrades in order to reflect where certain wrestlers should place in the current food chain. Guess I'm a little surprised this is even a topic of discussion... Especially when I consider that I was once told that using custom mechanics, charts, etc. is actually frowned upon (which is crazy in itself since there are so many bootlegs out there making regular appearances)... Bottom line is I'm not opposed to any changes are made in the handbooks because I'm going to use whatever suits my gameplay at any given time. To be honest, one of the few issues I have had with the game over the years is characters getting new cards too often sometimes with little change. Especially when I got back into the game, bought a bunch of sets and found one of the new guys in an early set already had a new card a few sets later. Of course, that just usually meant I turned one of the cards into a new character of my creation so I could use both cards. If I played by canon, it would be different, but I went off script years ago. |
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Post by Pariah on Feb 1, 2023 20:52:40 GMT -5
Put me down as another "meh" vote... When you're talking about COTG, I can see a valid reason for making stat adjustments in the handbook... After all, creating a new card for a wrestler takes up valuable real estate in a set... And I would hate to see this happen for the sake of a few minor upgrades/downgrades in order to reflect where certain wrestlers should place in the current food chain. Guess I'm a little surprised this is even a topic of discussion... Especially when I consider that I was once told that using custom mechanics, charts, etc. is actually frowned upon (which is crazy in itself since there are so many bootlegs out there making regular appearances)... Bottom line is I'm not opposed to any changes are made in the handbooks because I'm going to use whatever suits my gameplay at any given time. To be honest, one of the few issues I have had with the game over the years is characters getting new cards too often sometimes with little change. Especially when I got back into the game, bought a bunch of sets and found one of the new guys in an early set already had a new card a few sets later. Of course, that just usually meant I turned one of the cards into a new character of my creation so I could use both cards. If I played by canon, it would be different, but I went off script years ago. I've tried to run multiple canon feds and got pretty far with a couple of them... But, running a 'loose canon' promotion is what works best for me... Using the characters that I want in whatever capacity I see fit... That's one reason I like the whole multiverse concept... It means that every promoter is actually running a 'real' fed in their own pocket of time and space... It's awesome! |
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Post by j on Feb 1, 2023 20:53:57 GMT -5
I haven't plated CotG in years but the first time I can remember this was Dark Justice. He was my favorite guy at the time when we were supposed to raise his pin rating.
I'm not against it if it's just a small change instead of wasting a new card.
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