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Post by executioner on Jun 4, 2024 12:31:37 GMT -5
Dustin, I assume nothing about you. I do not know you. You are the one lecturing--as in lecturing people you do not know. I honestly do not care what your opinion is of me. Play whatever extreme "philosophical" games you like. This is a discussion board after all, but I guess some like discussion more than others.
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Post by Dustin on Jun 4, 2024 12:34:37 GMT -5
Again, I did not bring up Oklahoma. But commenting on a political action (as someone not me already did) is a political comment. Thank you for lecturing someone you do not know. While you are at it, how about you represent the military, veterans, or law enforcement. Or don't they matter, eh Dustin?? Are you assuming I have blue hair and use pronouns and don't eat meat and chop off my dick? That is your assumption based on my discussion. I support every group you mentioned. Nobody bashed those groups that we actively celebrate and honor. I don't really view support of law enforcement as political, nor being a kind human to someone that is gay or trans. If you view it as such, I understand. Like it or not, this game reflects pro-wrestling. I mean, this is just from last night: WWE RawShould we be outraged by this lustful filth? Is it political? Oh, it's normal... that damn love and lust and partnership. But keep it straight, right? No rainbows! Moreover, I'll admit that when it comes to genders, I'm in the camp that there are two. Sex? I feel reproduction is good for human sustainability. However, I refuse to be one that doesn't accept someone or pushes abother out for a "political" reason, unless harm is being done. This game should be for all... and discusion is okay.
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Post by executioner on Jun 4, 2024 12:35:58 GMT -5
Are you assuming I have blue hair and use pronouns and don't eat meat and chop off my dick? That is your assumption based on my discussion. I support every group you mentioned. Nobody bashed those groups that we actively celebrate and honor. I don't really view support of law enforcement as political, nor being a kind human to someone that is gay or trans. If you view it as such, I understand. Like it or not, this game reflects pro-wrestling. I mean, this is just from last night: WWE RawShould we be outraged by this lustful filth? Is it political? Oh, it's normal... that damn love and lust and partnership. But keep it straight, right? No rainbows! Moreover, I'll admit that when it comes to genders, I'm in the camp that there are two. Sex? I feel reproduction is good for human sustainability. However, I refuse to be one that doesn't accept someone or pushes abother out for a "political" reason, unless harm is being done. This game should be for all... and discusion is okay. Let me try this again.....Dustin, I assume nothing about you. I do not know you. You are the one lecturing--as in lecturing people you do not know. I honestly do not care what your opinion is of me. Play whatever extreme "philosophical" games you like. This is a discussion board after all, but I guess some like discussion more than others.
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Post by Dustin on Jun 4, 2024 12:36:58 GMT -5
Dustin, I assume nothing about you. I do not know you. You are the one lecturing--as in lecturing people you do not know. I honestly do not care what your opinion is of me. Play whatever extreme "philosophical" games you like. This is a discussion board after all, but I guess some like discussion more than others. I shall leave the chat. I do hope you have a wonderful day. I'm sorry that discussing the possibility of gay COTG characters is too extreme for this message board.
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Post by executioner on Jun 4, 2024 12:38:33 GMT -5
Dustin, I assume nothing about you. I do not know you. You are the one lecturing--as in lecturing people you do not know. I honestly do not care what your opinion is of me. Play whatever extreme "philosophical" games you like. This is a discussion board after all, but I guess some like discussion more than others. I shall leave the chat. I do hope you have a wonderful day. I'm sorry that discussing the possibility of gay COTG characters is too extreme for a message board. Cheers mate. I am sorry you cannot fathom discussion in your imaginary belief you are tolerant.
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Post by ~KB~ on Jun 4, 2024 13:11:35 GMT -5
.... Pride Month by discussing our favorite GWF grapplers who we think are a part of this community! Any ideas who would fall into this community and why they stand out for you? This thread has gone 6 pages and not ONE response addresses the original question. I can see how my first few replies could have been taken, but I assure you it was not my intent. I questioned why it matters and I still do, but then again, the story lines pointed out like Bloodline and Ms. Liberty & US Patriot didn't matter to me either. I'd watch reality TV if I wanted that nonsense. I've played this wonderful 'fantasy game' for over thirty-five years to 'escape reality', not incorporate it into it. To get lost in a Universe where aliens fight in the ring, the sideshow stuff like Bloodline and Omega family drama never influenced me once. Riot Girl was heavily implied to be gay in the last FTR online booklet, when she told (I think it was Stallion) "You are not my type." Sadly, the FTR ended, and that story was not explored any further. Passenger 19 (FTR CAC winner) was submitted with the pronouns THEY/THEM, I was told this firsthand. My original point was, ANY wrestler can be whatever you want them to be. It doesn't have to be written in a booklet to make it real to you. So.... I hope that makes sense but if does not, I don't know what else to say. NOW, to answer the 'original' question. It would be EASY to say KILLER QUEEN or SHOW STOPPER, but that would be stereotyping wouldn't it? They could just be playing mind games like Adrian Street or Gorgeous George. The fact is people are people and you cannot tell who might be a member of certain community just by looking at a drawing on a card. Copout or not, it's up to you promoter - make whoever be whatever ever you wish them to be and then tell YOUR story in a fed on the board. The only limitations are your imagination!!!
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Post by Pete on Jun 4, 2024 13:40:05 GMT -5
Yes, it's an "escape," but COTG has often reflected real wrestling and sometimes even real life. As wrestling changed in the '90s, so did COTG, even if they were ahead of the curve as far as loner antiheroes go. They certainly got more prevalent the more real-life wrestling moved into "shades of gray." Plus the use of tables and extreme wrestling, MMA, suicide dives and cruiserweights, ladder matches, etc. moved its way from real-life wrestling to COTG. The whole "The End" storyline was incorporating real life into the game since it was truly up in the air whether the game would continue at all. And one aspect of wrestling that's changed in the past 10-15 years is WWE and AEW both having multiple openly gay and in some cases genderfluid wrestlers on their roster, where their orientation is fully acknowledged on air (though not beaten over your head with it). This was unthinkable in the '90s, much less before, even if Pat Patterson was kind of out in a "if you know, you know" sense.
As for the OP's actual question...I'm going to fully cop out myself and say that as a cis hetero male I'm not all that comfortable playing a guessing game with orientations other than the obvious ones on the surface like Taechon. No, not even with Killer Queen. It's part of why I think it'd be a good idea for it to be come out and said on the record for a current or future character. One thing about gay folks is that they don't always wear it on their sleeves even if they're out, and trans folk aren't necessarily men in dresses.
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Post by steviedreamer on Jun 4, 2024 13:45:40 GMT -5
So disagreeing makes you an "insert bad words". So much pretend "tolerance" by promoters on here. Disagreeing with what? Be clear. COTG mirrors real life.
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Post by on_the_edge on Jun 4, 2024 15:39:24 GMT -5
Maybe some people are uncomfortable with the topic because they have not had their cootie shots. Of course there is a reason they have not had their shots but let's not go down that rabbit hole. If one can discuss the aspects of war and how it has an effect on the GWF then why not aspects of love. Just a small part of the great, vast universe. Just as long as we don't discuss which wrestler is vegan. ![:P](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/tongue.png) I am not sure anyone has said this topic cannot be discussed - just a question of why it is important, on_the_edge. Also it is assuming a lot to think that the promoters that are asking these questions are "uncomfortable with the topic," just because they are asking a question. As ~KB~ said, regarding all topics "It's Up To You Promoter." Case in point, in my fed I had Super Nova and Maxine Babe in a relationship on the first play through, after turning Super Nova heel following the death of Crossfire in 2104. It was up to me, so I did it. I guess the whole point is there is A LOT of assuming about people's intentions, feelings, etc. on this matter that is being done here, and worse, it appears, that it is being done in a light that assumes the worst about other promoters, and I just know that I do not want others to do that about me. But, again, that is just one man's opinion. And I never said anyone said this topic cannot be discussed. If you cannot see the negative aspect of some posts I am sorry. Doesn't mean it's not there. As far as why it's important the answer is the same about any question. The person asking has interest. A better question is if the subject is of no interest to a poster why did they bother posting? Plenty of threads do not interest me and so I pass on them and look for ones that do.
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Post by on_the_edge on Jun 4, 2024 15:44:31 GMT -5
So, would you prefer those people to just shut up and go away? Are you saying we don't need it here? I get you don't agree, but what are you actually saying? I am not the one trying to smother discussion. I can name the ones that are. Honestly, what impact does this "month" have to do with this game? If you want to put your politics into your game, go for it. No need to compel or guilt others into doing so. So to paraphrase you in a way, thanks for giving us permission to play the game how we want. Sorry someone compelled you or guilt you into reading this thread.
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