Difference between Hammerlock and Dbl Wristlock?

[Shon Maxx]

Several vintage wrestlers use hammerlocks and/or double wristlocks. What’s the difference between the two moves? I tried looking them up, but the pictures look exactly the same.

[Pete]

A double wristlock (aka the Kimura) is generally done from the front or side and you grip the opponent's wrist and bend it behind their back, then grip your own wrist to add pressure. A hammerlock is generally (especially in pro wrasslin') done from the back and you grip the opponent's wrist with one or both of your hands.

The opponent's arm is in the same position, getting cranked behind the back, in both cases.

[Shon Maxx]

So a dbl wrist is from the front or side while the hl is from the back? Okay that helps, thanks!

[Shon Maxx]

Another Q. Zbyszko’s finisher is described as a Half Nelson Crotch Lift. Now I’ve Googled this but got different results. Is it like a scoop slam, back body throw, or something else?

[Pete]

Jun 17, 2024 0:22:01 GMT -5 Shon Maxx said:

Another Q. Zbyszko’s finisher is described as a Half Nelson Crotch Lift. Now I’ve Googled this but got different results. Is it like a scoop slam, back body throw, or something else?

I tend to think of this as an old-timey term for a body slam but would defer to the Legends team if they have something else in mind.

[Cory Olson]

Jun 17, 2024 10:05:27 GMT -5 Pete said:

Jun 17, 2024 0:22:01 GMT -5 Shon Maxx said:

Another Q. Zbyszko’s finisher is described as a Half Nelson Crotch Lift. Now I’ve Googled this but got different results. Is it like a scoop slam, back body throw, or something else?

I tend to think of this as an old-timey term for a body slam but would defer to the Legends team if they have something else in mind.

TDalton would be the best one to answer this but I believe Pete's description of sort of a body slam is correct.

[TTX]

Those old school names are often so much better than the modern ones.

[pikemojo]

I don't think it has a double wristlock but I created a thread a while back to show all/most of Farmer Burns moves from his card. Might help envision some of it at least. He put out a few books that are pretty easy to find as PDFs that show a ton of wrestling moves and techniques if you are interested.

filsingergames.proboards.com/thread/25876/farmer-burns-moves

[natureboi]

I don't know a double wristlock from a double wristwatch. ⌚⌚

[Shon Maxx]

Jun 17, 2024 13:08:02 GMT -5 pikemojo said:

I don't think it has a double wristlock but I created a thread a while back to show all/most of Farmer Burns moves from his card. Might help envision some of it at least. He put out a few books that are pretty easy to find as PDFs that show a ton of wrestling moves and techniques if you are interested.

filsingergames.proboards.com/thread/25876/farmer-burns-moves

Thanks, that helps. I really want Zbyszko’s finisher to be a throw after watching amateur wrestling videos, especially with him doing it from a standing position.