Expansion packs

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Here's a thought: Why has nobody brought up Necro Butcher as a possibility for Legends of Honor? I completely forgot about him but he definitely needs an update, that LOTF card did him really wrong. Same with Hero.

Then there's a Larry Sweeney manager card and Hired Gun Brent Albright. Could do classic versions of Roderick (Generation Next "Messiah of the Backbreaker" Roddy which would fall perfectly in line if we got Aries from the same era), Davey Richards (No Remorse Corps) and Jimmy Jacobs (Age of the Fall which would fit with Tyler Black or even Jimmy Loves Lacey-era Jacobs which could feud with BJ Whitmer).

Bad as it sounds, the possibilities of doing Legends cards and classic versions of guys already in the set sound better to me than having a card for any current ROH guy outside of Bobby Fish.

[marktaggart]

My thinking was that Necro could be included in any potential forthcoming CZW set, but I can see making the case for him in ROH. I like most of those suggestions, but I would not go so far as to say I'd prefer them to the current roster.

[chrisn96]

Why do the legends packs need to be tied to a specific fed? So many guys that we have talked about had runs with multiple feds that it would almost make more sense to release them as their own brand. Also by releasing them separately we won't be taking away spots for people that want current rosters guys over legends.

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Dec 4, 2012 8:14:31 GMT -5 chrisn96 said:

Why do the legends packs need to be tied to a specific fed?

Because the cards would be based on said wrestler's time with that company only?

Dec 4, 2012 8:14:31 GMT -5 chrisn96 said:

So many guys that we have talked about had runs with multiple feds that it would almost make more sense to release them as their own brand.

Again, the cards would be representing said wrestler's time with that specific promotion.

Dec 4, 2012 8:14:31 GMT -5 chrisn96 said:

Also by releasing them separately we won't be taking away spots for people that want current rosters guys over legends.

Fair enough, but I don't see what harm it would do releasing a ROH Legends set since you're bound to pull in more fans with guys like Danielson, Nigel, KOW and Aries than you would with Bobby Fish, Marshall and the like.

Not to mention, Danielson, Nigel and Aries would give the main event scene in anyone's ROH fed three huge new guys, KOW would add yet another interesting team to the mix and Tyler Black could either go for the World Title or reform AOTF with Jimmy Jacobs. There's a lot more interesting options for them, IMO, than there are for the current guys outside of Fish.

[chrisn96]

First I think the individual brands should be represented by the current roster and guys that have moved on, ie Hero and Claudio, should be separate and let the promoters decide what to do with them. When you talk about having cards that represent guys in a specific fed you have to remember there has been a ton of crossover over the years. Quackenbush, Osirian Portal, Briscoe Brothers all competed in CZW, but I don't want new CZW versions of those guys and I don't think the people of CZW want a game to promote their fed full of guys that aren't there. Hell, the King of Wrestling are tag champs in Chikara, CZW and ROH, but we don't need 3 versions because it represents their time in that fed. A guy like Hero I can see doing 2 versions, a Super Friends and KOW, but outside of that I only see the need for one version of a guy regardless of which fed he was in.

In reality we are talking about a stamp in the bottom right hand corner of the card. You can release different versions of guys, but they don't have to have ROH, CZW stamped on them to use them in whatever fed you are running.

[tystates]

As far as ROH Legends for guys already in the game, like Danielson, Albright, Black, etc., I would really only want one card of them to represent their time in ROH. No need for a card of this guy during this time period, then another when he was tied to that faction, etc. One overall ROH card for the names that are already in the game.

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Dec 4, 2012 9:42:32 GMT -5 chrisn96 said:

First I think the individual brands should be represented by the current roster and guys that have moved on, ie Hero and Claudio, should be separate and let the promoters decide what to do with them.

I disagree.

Dec 4, 2012 9:42:32 GMT -5 chrisn96 said:

When you talk about having cards that represent guys in a specific fed you have to remember there has been a ton of crossover over the years.

Yeah, and some guys were more successful in one company than they were in others,

Dec 4, 2012 9:42:32 GMT -5 chrisn96 said:

Quackenbush, Osirian Portal, Briscoe Brothers all competed in CZW, but I don't want new CZW versions of those guys

Nor would I, none of them are CZW guys. None of them had notable runs in CZW.

Dec 4, 2012 9:42:32 GMT -5 chrisn96 said:

Hell, the King of Wrestling are tag champs in Chikara, CZW and ROH, but we don't need 3 versions because it represents their time in that fed. A guy like Hero I can see doing 2 versions, a Super Friends and KOW, but outside of that I only see the need for one version of a guy regardless of which fed he was in.

We already DO have Chikara/CZW versions of KOW--they're LOTF versions. The KOW cards we'd get from ROH would be presumably representing their run in 2010-2011 as the Tag Champions when they were the most dominant team in all of pro wrestling.

Dec 4, 2012 9:42:32 GMT -5 chrisn96 said:

In reality we are talking about a stamp in the bottom right hand corner of the card. You can release different versions of guys, but they don't have to have ROH, CZW stamped on them to use them in whatever fed you are running.

I'd rather they do cards based on certain guys best runs in a company rather than a card reflecting their entire time on the indies. I mean, it makes sense to do a Danielson card based on his time in ROH as a SE for a ROH set, does it not?

Then again, as you said the stamp doesn't matter, so why do you care if they're separate from the promotion specific sets?

We'll have to agree to disagree on this matter.

[pikemojo]

The way I have understood it from past posts is that FG isn't releasing any sets under any promotions name without that promotion having some say in who is actually in that set. So, I imagine if ROH said that they really wanted Danielson and KOW in a set of theirs and FG has the rights to create those cards, they will probably do so assuming both parties feel there is enough money to be made to make it all worth it.

This was just my understanding, could be wrong of course...

[chrisn96]

I guess we are going to have to disagree. To me a guy that has moved on to WWE or TNA should now be considered an alumni or "Legend" and shouldn't take the spot of a guy that is in ROH or CZW now. Also, you don't need a promotions stamp in the corner of the card to represents a wrestlers time there. If you look at Bryan Danielsons original card I don't think there is any doubt what time in his career that card represents and it Doesn't say ROH anywhere on the card. I would love to get 2 new Chris Hero cards one for his time in Chikara and one for his teaming with Claudio as the KoW, but I don't need them to have Chikara or ROH on them to know what part of his career each card is for. But whatever, like you said, were just going to have to disagree.

[chrismystery]

The game is awesome as is... For me, it is a reflection of the current 2012 roster. Any additions would be because of future roster changes in 2013 etc. It should be compared to the COTG 2089. You wouldn't just bring in Omega from 10 years ago. You would need a time machine. Maybe, Tom could make a game that only focused on the Legends of Wrestling, to make you guys happy. No wait, he already did.

So, why is everyone talking about Legends when we are talking about the ROH expansion?


Something that I have always thought was missing with the Legends of Wrestling was the ability to concentrate on a roster from a specific year, similar to COTG. We finally have it and everyone wants another Claudio card instead.