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Post by Chad Olson on Sept 23, 2020 11:01:16 GMT -5
*cough* Superpower Summit. That's the first one that comes to my mind, too! |
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Post by Swarm on Sept 23, 2020 11:11:30 GMT -5
Same. I think this is an official rule. When a guy w a tag finisher hits this move, he’s tagging out. If the opponent survives, the tag partner is the guy who should be in there. This is a very important detail because outside interference and pin saves can change the momentum of the match - if you find yourself in a situation where that pin has been reversed - you want to be sure you’ve got the right tag team partner in there. In summary, I believe there is no situation where the guy w the FINISHER (+X) tag should be taking a pin on a reversal. It’s always the guy he tagged out to making the pin. Thoughts? I agree though I'm sure that there are cases where this doesn't make sense. If I'm recalling correctly, on Marcus Bagwell's b&w card he has a slingshot splash tag move with 2 Cold Scorpio. I'm sure Bagwell does the splash and cover however. Oh and for starting a match without the Gary Cappetta chart, I roll one die. On a roll of 1, the wrestler with the better agility rolls first else the wrestler with the better power. Figures powerful wrestlers have an advantage. Although I’m sure someone can find an example or two to prove me wrong, I’m fairly confident most GWF (and Kronos) tag team finishers are designed so that the wrestler being tagged in on the finisher is the one making the PIN. Open challenge to anyone willing to take on that research. Would be fun stat to analyze. |
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Post by Cory Olson on Sept 23, 2020 13:10:24 GMT -5
I agree though I'm sure that there are cases where this doesn't make sense. If I'm recalling correctly, on Marcus Bagwell's b&w card he has a slingshot splash tag move with 2 Cold Scorpio. I'm sure Bagwell does the splash and cover however. did a lot of work on Bagwell's card. Chad, do you remember if Bagwell or Scorpio is the one doing the splash? I was thinking it was supposed to be Scorpio doing the splash. |
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Post by Chad Olson on Sept 23, 2020 14:53:08 GMT -5
I agree though I'm sure that there are cases where this doesn't make sense. If I'm recalling correctly, on Marcus Bagwell's b&w card he has a slingshot splash tag move with 2 Cold Scorpio. I'm sure Bagwell does the splash and cover however. did a lot of work on Bagwell's card. Chad, do you remember if Bagwell or Scorpio is the one doing the splash? I was thinking it was supposed to be Scorpio doing the splash. I think Scorpio was doing the splash. I usually set up tag finishers/moves to follow the "person doing the move is tagging in" rule. |
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Post by Pete on Sept 23, 2020 23:58:27 GMT -5
*cough* Superpower Summit. That's the first one that comes to my mind, too! Antak and Son of Ram/Minotaur's ANIMEN FINISH is another one. The GameMasters' ENDGAME may or may not qualify. You'd think Star Warrior would be the one making the pin after doing the Cosmic Big Bang, but maybe he rolls off and lets Thantos either get a submission or a pinfall with the figure four. |
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Post by Sickman on Sept 24, 2020 0:18:35 GMT -5
I've always played the tag finisher as wrestler a rolls 6 - "TAG FINISHER" (tag) and wrestler b makes the pin. For instance, take the Vachons. If Butcher is in and you roll a 5 which is "QUADRUPLE FOOT STOMP" (0) tag, Mad Dog goes for the pin. If it's a tag move, next guy comes in.
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Post by Cory Olson on Sept 24, 2020 9:34:05 GMT -5
The GameMasters' ENDGAME may or may not qualify. You'd think Star Warrior would be the one making the pin after doing the Cosmic Big Bang, but maybe he rolls off and lets Thantos either get a submission or a pinfall with the figure four. I remember playing it that way because of the official rule. I think of Halloween Havoc '89 in the Thunderdome Match when Ric Flair had Terry Funk in the figure four and Sting came off the top rope with splashes. Granted, Funk didn't submit but Gary Hart "threw" in the towel to end the match. I kind of see the ENDGAME working in a similar way. |
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Post by DK II on Sept 24, 2020 19:10:04 GMT -5
I have to chuckle...after all the discussion on who makes the pin for a Tag Finisher, I was all ready to make the change in my play, but NOT once did I roll a Tag Team Finisher in any of the matches. Welp, next card then...  |
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Post by Swarm on Sept 24, 2020 19:16:20 GMT -5
I have to chuckle...after all the discussion on who makes the pin for a Tag Finisher, I was all ready to make the change in my play, but NOT once did I roll a Tag Team Finisher in any of the matches. Welp, next card then... The stuff we’ve been discussing came into play for me last night in a match between the Gladiators and Royal Uprising. Probation was hit with CHARIOTS OF FIRE. Fist made the huge PIN save rolling a 12 on the outside interference chart and Exo King (who tagged in on the move) got smashed. Fist rolled Probation on top of Exo King and Exo King rolled a snake eyes taking the pin. Of course had I kept Death Knight in there he would have been pinned anyways since it was a snake eyes but I immediately thought of this thread when it happened. |
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Post by DK II on Sept 24, 2020 19:31:02 GMT -5
So, I guess in my mind it would not have mattered if Exo-King or DK were going for the pin there. Fist was going to make the pin save and roll Probation on top of who ever was in for the other team.
BUT I can definitely see where it does matter in this situation where the pin rates for Exo-King and DK are different and can prolong or end a match on rolls other than snake-eyes.
Just goes to show how it's in the details...
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