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Post by Swarm on Jan 19, 2021 14:34:38 GMT -5
More thoughts.
Choices D and E are the two least powerful ch charts to have in general because both are covered - 3 moves. You’re basically rolling to see if you get to hit your - 3 move. This can become a weakness against very powerful or very agile opponents.
All - 2 moves followed by ch charts are powerful because you can convert a - 2 move into a down. These are especially powerful against opponents with no down - 3 moves on their card.
The biggest advantages choices G and H have is that both can result in automatic PIN attempts via the deathjump chart.
Maybe new ch charts could be drawn up to give every option a clear advantage with a risk great enough that it gives players a real challenge whether to go for it or not. Maybe ch D and E could somehow give a player a bigger reward than the - 3 move with a risk great enough that choosing to just go along with the - 3 move is an option.
Something to think about.
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Post by markyhitch on Jan 19, 2021 15:11:34 GMT -5
I'll take the opportunity to mention some rules I'm going to experiment with whenever the charts (ropes, turnbuckle, ring, deathjump) end with a "(c)".
On ropes and turnbuckle, a wrestler is more likely to roll down a level if they have a level-3 move on L1O or two ag/pw moves on L1O and their ag/pw is better. More likely to roll on ropes chart if opponent has C ropes rating. Same with turnbuckle chart.
Out of the ring, heels will be more likely to use this chart, especially if they are losing or hope to get disqualified to protect their title reign.
Deathjump, does the wrestler have a deathjump-type move on their card? No? Then they are not known for deathjumping so it is not an option.
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Post by Drew on Jan 19, 2021 16:08:22 GMT -5
Choice charts are the way to go IMO. Without them it seems guys are more consistent, but without them you nullify the Power & Agility ratings
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Post by Gunslinger on Jan 19, 2021 16:13:31 GMT -5
If someone wanted to, they could use the choice chart to stack the deck a bit. Wrestlers you want to win always choose the more favorable option, wrestlers you want to lose always pick the less favorable option.
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Post by Travis605 on Jan 19, 2021 16:35:59 GMT -5
If someone wanted to, they could use the choice chart to stack the deck a bit. Wrestlers you want to win always choose the more favorable option, wrestlers you want to lose always pick the less favorable option. I hope promoters have more integrity! Lol. I actually run my fed like a shoot and hate to fudge things. But with the choices, I base it on the rule of 7. If the moves to be successful on a 6 or lower, I do the other option automatically. |
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Post by markyhitch on Jan 19, 2021 16:50:47 GMT -5
If someone wanted to, they could use the choice chart to stack the deck a bit. Wrestlers you want to win always choose the more favorable option, wrestlers you want to lose always pick the less favorable option. Or if, like me, you prefer the dice to make the decisions, you could tie it to their ring rating like so... A - chooses the favourable option. B - let the dice decide. C - chooses the adverse option. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2021 16:51:19 GMT -5
If someone wanted to, they could use the choice chart to stack the deck a bit. Wrestlers you want to win always choose the more favorable option, wrestlers you want to lose always pick the less favorable option. I'm not saying I have been known to do this. Granted, I'm not denying it, either... |
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Post by TTX on Jan 19, 2021 16:54:18 GMT -5
choice charts are really important. Changes characters quite a bit when you don't use them.
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Post by Swarm on Jan 19, 2021 16:55:21 GMT -5
Choice charts are the way to go IMO. Without them it seems guys are more consistent, but without them you nullify the Power & Agility ratings You can also nullify the chart ratings. If you’ve got a wrestler with a C ropes or C deathjump against an opponent with a ch A or a ch H or G, that C all of a sudden isn’t a weakness if the guy is never getting thrown into the ropes or have a deathjump used against him. |
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Post by Swarm on Jan 19, 2021 17:04:00 GMT -5
If someone wanted to, they could use the choice chart to stack the deck a bit. Wrestlers you want to win always choose the more favorable option, wrestlers you want to lose always pick the less favorable option. I treat them like speciality moves that are harder to pull off, so when are they are successful, it’s a big deal and the crowd recognizes the effort it took to execute the maneuver. A - 3 (ch X) move is slightly more complex than your straight - 3 move. So the wrestler may take the easy way out against a tough opponent and just go for the easier to execute - 2 move to keep the match going and stay on offense. Late in matches when fatigue tokens have piled up, wrestlers tend to try for the riskier roll in hopes of ending the match. A lot of these decisions are based on the wrestlers personalities and PIN ratings at the time too. Some guys are bigger risk takers. Some guys can wrestle longer matches and aren’t desperate to hit the big move at the moment. So they go for the more sure thing to keep things going and hope to score big in another way. Other guys with higher PIN ratings might need to take that risk sooner in a match vs a better opponent. That’s why they’re choice charts. Lots of variables go into making that decision. |
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