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Post by Swarm on Apr 19, 2022 16:52:29 GMT -5
As I continue to think about it, I like the idea of lowering the dis ratings of everybody on a specific card in a specific arena (say a hardcore venue) to simulate a higher propensity of violence due to the surroundings.
Like an ECW fed or something, considering the dis on those cards are prob pretty high compared to most LOW cards.
I think I’d still roll twice though. Would be like a double house rule.
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Post by malicelover on Apr 19, 2022 17:11:56 GMT -5
Brad , the rolling multiple times makes it so you don't have a ton of dqs. Case in point, the original charts had dqs for a lot of rolls - once on death jump, at least three situations on the out of the ring, etc. - and also higher disqualification ratings - anything over 5 - that you could have cards dominated by dqs. Rolling twice makes it more like a real wrestling card. I don't think I'd find a card where half of the matches result in dqs interesting. Honestly, the simple thing I do is just subtract one from everyone's DQ rating. It makes a huge difference without rolling twice. Most of the charts today have adjusted so they don't have the DQs like the original charts, so not sure how thats relevant unless you just like using the original charts Travis, in my COTG fed, I am using the charts as they were released. So it is relevant in that regard. |
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Post by natureboi on Apr 20, 2022 3:25:37 GMT -5
I think I'm using the current charts and there are way too many disqualification opportunities, especially out of the ring. I'm rolling DQ several times per wrestler per match. That's the problem more so than the ratings themselves. I do see the logic in lowering the ratings by one, which reduces the probability of a successful roll.
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Post by TTX on Apr 20, 2022 5:03:46 GMT -5
There are definitely too many chances at disqualification partially because there's too much time out of the ring (which really doesn't reflect wrestling much anymore) The charts as a whole appear too much in terms of wrestling except for ropes (Which honestly probably doesn't occur enough) but it's as much a game balance thing as a wrestling thing.
The dq out of the ring is funny as I can't think of the last match where I saw that happen.....if it did it was probably for using a chair or pushing a referee but how many matches on a show are you going to have it happen?
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Post by malicelover on Apr 20, 2022 9:51:43 GMT -5
There are definitely too many chances at disqualification partially because there's too much time out of the ring (which really doesn't reflect wrestling much anymore) The charts as a whole appear too much in terms of wrestling except for ropes (Which honestly probably doesn't occur enough) but it's as much a game balance thing as a wrestling thing. The dq out of the ring is funny as I can't think of the last match where I saw that happen.....if it did it was probably for using a chair or pushing a referee but how many matches on a show are you going to have it happen? , all of this. Concur 100% with this. |
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Post by LAWraith on Apr 20, 2022 11:48:40 GMT -5
I might be in the minority here but I dont get the multiple rolling. DQs are awesome feud starters and there are rules, dont break the rules and you wont get DQ'd.
I've always kind of ran with roll once, two DQs in a row usually leads to a suspension or fine.
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Post by TTX on Apr 20, 2022 12:26:19 GMT -5
Which would be fine if you had the option but it's dictated by the dice, cards, and charts.
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Post by Big Bri on Apr 20, 2022 14:15:17 GMT -5
-Rolling twice for DQs was a genius idea. Credit to the originator of this. Really helped my gameplay.
-If any champion is in a non-title match, he must roll at or under his PIN Rating twice to lose. Gotta help them stay protected.
-Three times for title matches. Makes for longer reigns (which I've always liked) and for the title changes to have a lot more meaning.
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Post by Swarm on Apr 20, 2022 14:30:20 GMT -5
I dont get the multiple rolling. Easiest way to try and understand it is that some players prefer the cards to determine the outcome of the match (even a DQ) and not the charts. Obviously it’s not completely unavoidable, even rolling twice. But it helps a lot. You shouldn’t have to book a bunch of special matches to get a clear winner all the time. |
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Post by natureboi on Apr 20, 2022 14:47:18 GMT -5
I play Legends as a work and I'm the old school promoter/booker in a vaguely 80's context. No promoter in his right mind back then would book half the matches on the card to finish as disqualifications for fear the marks would burn down the building. That's what you get with a single roll. I've tried different ways of mitigating this. I've found double rolls to actually make disqualifications unrealistically rare. Right now, I have a single DQ limit in an undercard match plus I always allow a DQ in the main event. Single roll each time. Works for me.
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