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Post by Cory Olson on Jun 2, 2023 7:28:31 GMT -5
It's that time again, as Uncharted Territory returns with a jam-packed episode! Chad shares a comment posted by faithful listener Pete Beck ( DK II)! Then, the team answers two great questions from faithful listeners Thomas Keen ( Thomas (TK)) and Zeke "Mr. Vegas" Gould. Plus, Chad gives an update on some of the guests and events for the 2023 George Tragos-Lou Thesz Hall of Fame Induction weekend combined with Galacticon! And in this week's main event, the team review the Legends Originals set from 2009! Find out who was bumped from the original line-up, who almost didn't make this line-up, stories on the statting, background on the four Special Edition cards released around this time, and more! Plus, Chad plays the game?! Find out what the videos below have to do with this episode! Uncharted Territory: Episode 135
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Post by TTX on Jun 2, 2023 8:15:48 GMT -5
Fun as always. My first live match was Bushwhackers and Beverly Brothers. TV I believe was the Rockers though Randy Savage's interview was my main memory. Looking forward to the HoF in July. One note, Gang was always interesting...could beat Andre and lose to SD Jones on consecutive cards. Totally would love a Grunt set.
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Post by Ken West on Jun 2, 2023 8:36:04 GMT -5
Chad Olson I use it as a dice holder and found it at an antique store for $1.00. Now when I roll cards I hear Rod Trongard doing commentary. Pretty sure I've heard Larry Nelson yelling something as well but I'll wait on calling an exorcist.
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Post by pikemojo on Jun 2, 2023 13:10:42 GMT -5
Always excited for a new episode and it landed just when I was needing something to listen to to get me through the early afternoon slump of my Friday work day.
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Post by "Emperor Norton" (Mark T) on Jun 2, 2023 15:22:17 GMT -5
Good one again. Ron Waterman: that guy never made it to the main roster, but I remember they kept him around in developmental for a long time. He was a fighter who made a little bit of a name for himself in early MMA. I think they thought they wanted another Shamrock and it didn't materialize.
Originals is one of my favorites from the black and white era. Great mix of many eras and territories (maybe the theme less theme can work again...). I agree on the difficulty of coming up with stats for someone like Gang. There's just no good way to make it where the big men who would dominate a smaller guy from lower down the card won't be at some disadvantage against the better agility (and vice versa with smaller stars against lower or midcard guys with higher power ratings). It's a quirk of the game and you just roll with it. You guys get it right more often than not.
Got to agree that Tom made the right call with RVD. He had been both WWECW and WWE world champion in the recent past at that point and would have had a run with it if he and Sabu hadn't gotten caught driving while doing their Cheech and Chong impersonation. Undeniably one of the top superstars of the late 90s and into the 2010s.
Love Brothers: a pair of cards I got a lot of mileage out of considering they were a team I didn't really know about before the game. I am actively working on ways to use those newer color cards because they're a lot of fun.
....you know, there's not a card in the set I don't like and I got a good amount of use out of all of them looking back at it.
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Post by Cory Olson on Jun 2, 2023 15:57:28 GMT -5
Good one again. Ron Waterman: that guy never made it to the main roster, but I remember they kept him around in developmental for a long time. He was a fighter who made a little bit of a name for himself in early MMA. I think they thought they wanted another Shamrock and it didn't materialize. Until I looked up videos on Waterman for this week's post, I had forgotten that he had an MMA background!
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Post by pikemojo on Jun 2, 2023 16:39:35 GMT -5
I remember seeing the magazine articles about Waterman and thinking he was going to be a big star. He had a great look but was obviously missing something... from what little I've seen it was wrestling ability and personality which are kind of important in the wrestling business.
I'd still take a card for him and would listen to an episode of UTP with him on it! lol
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Post by DK II on Jun 3, 2023 12:18:47 GMT -5
Another fun episode...you guys have too much fun...AND oh my goodness if there is ever a GRUNT! edition, there better be a mechanism for a "decapitated head rolling off the apron" on a card! ----- First televised match that I ever remember seeing was on a UHF channel (you know the ones you had to fine tune with the other channel knob to get channels 14 - 99 or however high they went) and I was just turning the knob to see what I could pick up. All I remember about the match was a bigger guy in full-body-masked-black-wrestling outfit and that guy was punching a smaller guy in the throat with the smaller guy acting like he was about to die from it! Somehow, the smaller guy recovered and then went crazy with all these flying and jumping moves in what I came to learn was lucha libre! I remember tuning in later to hear about matches at the "Olympic Auditorium" but could never talk my parents into taking me there to see matches in person. We started getting WWF on Saturday mornings a few years later in conjunction with Roller Derby (The L.A. T-BIRDS were always the BEST with Little Ralphie Valladares and Skinny Minnie Gwen Miller as the main jammer stars!!!) and that was right around the buildup leading to Rocky Johnson and Tony Atlas beating the Wild Samoans for the tag titles and then Sgt Slaughter whipping Bob Backlund with his riding-crop during a ringside stair workout (I still don't know why the world champion would be do a stair workout at ringside while other matches were taking place??? I don't think that angle would work today, would it?) that led to his not being at his optimum performance level when facing The Iron Shiek and eventually Arnold Skaaland "threw in the towel". ----- First live show was in 1995, a WCW house-show at Casino Magic's THUNDERDOME in Bay St. Louis, Mississippi. The Thunderdome was a semi-permanent tent-like structure in which boxing and wrestling events were held in before the in-the-casino ballroom was finished where they later held similar events (it was in the ballroom that I attended the "worst PPV event of all time"). I don't remember the first matches, but I remember that Bobby Eaton was on the card (I distinctly remember him hitting the Alabama Jammer, but I don't remember on whom he did...) and that the main event was a US Title match pitting Big Van Vader vs. Hacksaw Jim Duggin in which Vader successfully defended the title. I also remember that at one point Vader rolled out of the ring and was standing right in front of me (I was int he third row), and I wanted to see how "big" he really was...so I stood up to boo him and I was looking "down" at him...BUT he was about 3 of me wide!!!! So, while not a tall guy he was definitely LARGE! I am fairly certain that I still have my ticket stub from attending this event...
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Post by throwingtoasters on Jun 3, 2023 12:42:32 GMT -5
Great episode. Love hearing the behind the scenes of the classic LOW releases.
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Post by j on Jun 3, 2023 21:58:22 GMT -5
Not sure of my first televised match but it probably had Boogie Woogie Man Jimmy Valiant, he was my grandfather and my favorite guy.
First live match was July 24, 1985 in Buffalo. Opening match was a time limit draw between Lanny Poffo vs Iron Mike Sharpe. Show was headlined by Bruno Sammartino vs Missing Link.
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