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Post by Pete on Mar 20, 2012 13:55:30 GMT -5
So, the Occupiers weren't serving as a punch on the nose. I guess they weren't out in public, getting in people's faces, annoying people? I would respond, but as an Occupier, I just want everything handed to me on a silver platter. WOrk is just too much well, work.  And the Tea Partiers are all racist sheep who are afraid of "socialism" even though they barely have any clue what the word means or how it relates to Obama. I can paint thousands of people with the same broad brush, too. I'm not comfortable identifying myself out-and-out as a full-blown Occupier, but I will say I'm mostly sympathetic with their cause if not their tactics all of the time. And I don't see how the fact that the U.S. middle class is rapidly shrinking can possibly be construed as a Good Thing, or how that equates to "wanting everything for free." |
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Post by Mr. Hyde on Mar 20, 2012 13:56:55 GMT -5
I am not sure where this became about Occupiers putting forth enough energy or ambition to punch anyone. I think the police in Oakland have seen plenty of energy and ambition. I don't agree with the tactics of those protesters, they go too far. It's clear by the contempt you have for Occupiers that you've been slapped in the face by them. Instead of asking why, you've just written them off. Apparently, a punch on the nose is not what it takes to get people's attention. |
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Post by executioner on Mar 20, 2012 14:00:17 GMT -5
I would respond, but as an Occupier, I just want everything handed to me on a silver platter. WOrk is just too much well, work. And the Tea Partiers are all racist sheep who are afraid of "socialism" even though they barely have any clue what the word means or how it relates to Obama. I can paint thousands of people with the same broad brush, too. I'm not comfortable identifying myself out-and-out as a full-blown Occupier, but I will say I'm mostly sympathetic with their cause if not their tactics all of the time. And I don't see how the fact that the U.S. middle class is rapidly shrinking can possibly be construed as a Good Thing, or how that equates to "wanting everything for free." Pete, I am not painting you with a broad brush, as I know you are not attempting to paint me as such. You are sympathetic to them, fine. I can respect that. While I am not a Tea Partier, I am a proud conservative and will stand by that no matter how MSNBC tries to label me. And the middle class shrinking is not a good thing. Nor is the past 3 years of off the rail spending. But in the real world, not that of spoiled college kids, we have to work and plan and toil to acheive the necessities and wants of life. If they put half the effort in getting a job, as opposed to whiny protests. Um, they would likely have a job and begin to acquire the wants and needs. But this is just a simple consevartive caucasian christian male speaking--the dread to all liberals and occupiers. I will now go back to my cave. |
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Post by Pete on Mar 20, 2012 14:04:20 GMT -5
It's hard to just "go get a job" when there AREN'T ANY JOBS TO GET. Well-paying jobs, that is. I don't mean 6 figures, I mean enough to support a family without having to work a second one. That is, not settling for a part-time position at Walmart. It's easy to say, "Plan ahead and pull yourself up by your own bootstraps." It's harder to actually outline how one can reasonably execute that plan when jobs are being sent overseas or hours and wages are getting slashed.
Another issue I have is talking about all the spending Obama has done has crippled us...which administration started the $750-billion War in Iraq again?
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Post by executioner on Mar 20, 2012 14:06:45 GMT -5
It's hard to just "go get a job" when there AREN'T ANY JOBS TO GET. Well-paying jobs, that is. I don't mean 6 figures, I mean enough to support a family without having to work a second one. That is, not settling for a part-time position at Walmart. It's easy to say, "Plan ahead and pull yourself up by your own bootstraps." It's harder to actually outline how one can reasonably execute that plan when jobs are being sent overseas or hours and wages are getting slashed. Another issue I have is talking about all the spending Obama has done has crippled us...which administration started the $750-billion War in Iraq again? I guess we just live in different worlds. And since we are casting stones, it does take a special talent to QUADRUPLE the national debt in 3 years. |
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Post by Mr. Hyde on Mar 20, 2012 14:08:40 GMT -5
Pete, I am not painting you with a broad brush... But in the real world, not that of spoiled college kids... Try again. You're not painting Pete, but you are painting. Your brush is so large as to knock over the canvas. One of the most infamous images from the Occupy movement was an elderly woman who had been pepper sprayed in the face. She must have been a real party animal in the dorms. |
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Post by Pete on Mar 20, 2012 14:09:44 GMT -5
I guess we just live in different worlds. And since we are casting stones, it does take a special talent to QUADRUPLE the national debt in 3 years. ::scratches head:: My math skills have deteriorated since school but when Bush left office the debt was about $10 trillion, and it's $11.4 trillion now. |
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Post by executioner on Mar 20, 2012 14:11:32 GMT -5
Pete, I am not painting you with a broad brush... But in the real world, not that of spoiled college kids... Try again. You're not painting Pete, but you are painting. Your brush is so large as to knock over the canvas. One of the most infamous images from the Occupy movement was an elderly woman who had been pepper sprayed in the face. She must have been a real party animal in the dorms. Here Hyde, take my brush. Have at it. Please. I surrender to MSNBC group think. Thanks for letting me play kids. I sincerely apologize for my cold hearted conservative ways. |
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Post by Mr. Hyde on Mar 20, 2012 14:12:10 GMT -5
It's hard to just "go get a job" when there AREN'T ANY JOBS TO GET. Well-paying jobs, that is. I don't mean 6 figures, I mean enough to support a family without having to work a second one. That is, not settling for a part-time position at Walmart. It's easy to say, "Plan ahead and pull yourself up by your own bootstraps." It's harder to actually outline how one can reasonably execute that plan when jobs are being sent overseas or hours and wages are getting slashed. Another issue I have is talking about all the spending Obama has done has crippled us...which administration started the $750-billion War in Iraq again? I guess we just live in different worlds. And since we are casting stones, it does take a special talent to QUADRUPLE the national debt in 3 years. Both presidents are equally terrible, Obama maybe even more. This is about demonstrating, by all citizens no matter their political leaning. If you had gathered up the energy and ambition to investigate what Occupiers punch you in the face with, you may have come across arguments that both political parties are bought by the extremely wealthy, hence both parties no longer represent those who vote for them. |
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Post by swarm on Mar 20, 2012 14:15:15 GMT -5
Sometimes a stiff punch to the nose is the only way to get some people's attention. Get these jerks off the streets, throw them in cells and let them protest that. The bitching and moaning about free speech oh man, stop. Just stop with that shit. They just don't want mobs gathering and wasting everyone's time with their crabby bullshit attitude's. It's a big problem. Is that so hard to accept? It's a safety issue if nothing else. Talk about mountains out of molehills. So if you protest, you're a chimpanzee. But, if you punch someone in the face, you're a modern gentleman? It's not a call for violence. Just the opposite. It's a metaphor for throwing these dangerous nuisances in jail where they can't hurt anyone but themselves. And that's exactly what this law does. [quote author=swarm board=currentevents thread=10364 post=127152 time=1332267087Is it possible that a gathering of people in a public place to raise awareness of whatever issue could also be considered a metaphorical punch on the nose? No. Knowledge is power. Use it. There's nothing intellectually powerful about public protesting. |
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