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Post by Thomas (TK) on Jun 9, 2024 13:53:44 GMT -5
I do not agree with the life style, but thats neither here or there. THere should be a place for everyone in the galactic ring and it should be far enough into the future life styles don't matter. Would be cool to know if there are any and if there will be any coming soon. What lifestyle are you talking about? It is about being comfortable in your own skin...its not like individuals wake up and go "I think I am going to be gay today or identify as a female" and then go through merciless attitudes/side eye/etc... I have several people I associate with that are transgendered/gay/non binary and I told them that I really don't care what/who they are as long they are happy. It doesn't effect me or my life, so why should I have anything negative to say about what they choose to do |
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Post by "Emperor Norton" (Mark T) on Jun 9, 2024 14:07:12 GMT -5
Alright, I know I should just let it go, but sometimes we don't always do what we should. So here goes. Why would anyone be so sex obsessed about a game that has nothing to do with sex? Why should everything revolve around who someone has physical relations with or what set of reproductive parts they have? Should it matter? I can think of hundreds of more interesting character traits. I personally don't care what people do with their private time as long as it's consenting adults, but I also don't want to hear about it constantly. You, my friend, are not a bleeding heart liberal... but a direct opposite. .... What I am, as defined by me (as we all get to define ourselves in the current age) is a person who loves or dislikes individuals based on my personal experience with them. I also feel a lot of fatigue over identity politics and the group mentality. If you are good to me and I like you and you are not hateful or hurtful, then you are my friend and I defend you. I don't base how I feel on a stranger's identity. |
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Post by malicelover on Jun 9, 2024 14:11:44 GMT -5
.... What I am, as defined by me (as we all get to define ourselves in the current age) is a person who loves or dislikes individuals based on my personal experience with them. I also feel a lot of fatigue over identity politics and the group mentality. If you are good to me and I like you and you are not hateful or hurtful, then you are my friend and I defend you. I don't base how I feel on a stranger's identity. , this right here is the post of the thread. Period. Bravo to yu and your reasoned and logical approach to people. |
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Post by ~KB~ on Jun 9, 2024 14:18:22 GMT -5
What I am, as defined by me (as we all get to define ourselves in the current age) is a person who loves or dislikes individuals based on my personal experience with them. I also feel a lot of fatigue over identity politics and the group mentality. If you are good to me and I like you and you are not hateful or hurtful, then you are my friend and I defend you. I don't base how I feel on a stranger's identity. , this right here is the post of the thread. Period. Bravo to you and your reasoned and logical approach to people. AGREED! People are people, regardless of race, creed, color, region, political aliment or sexual orientation. You're either a good person or you are not, and I will treat you accordingly. |
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Post by bear805 on Jun 9, 2024 14:59:07 GMT -5
just because a person treats u right and u want to defend them doesn't mean they aren't mistreating others.
I've said what I've said and others have said what they've said.
I'm not going to go round and round with people defending intolerant, hateful, dismissive comments made here.
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Post by Pete on Jun 9, 2024 16:28:25 GMT -5
I'd be fine with a "live and let live" philosophy but other people aren't content to leave it at that. So we have legislation and attempts at legislation trying to legislate trans people out of existence, deny people trans-based care, rolling back rights for LGBTQ+ people, vandalizing and stealing Pride flags and displays (a bunch of this has happened in the past few days in various parts of Central Ohio), going on book-banning campaigns, and trying to make drag shows a capital offense (and I'm not exaggerating--Florida has a proposal that would categorize drag shows as "grooming" which would be punishable by death, with an 8-4 jury vote). Hell, it could affect whether my brother and his non-citizen husband, who live overseas, could even get back into the U.S. if they had to or wanted to.
As long as this stuff is going on in the real world, pride and representation matter.
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Post by malicelover on Jun 9, 2024 18:52:10 GMT -5
just because a person treats u right and u want to defend them doesn't mean they aren't mistreating others. I've said what I've said and others have said what they've said. I'm not going to go round and round with people defending intolerant, hateful, dismissive comments made here. Please point out where anyone is being mistreated here, bear805. Not an interpretation, or insinuations. You can say what you are saying, and feel what you are feeling, but to claim that anyone is intolerant or dismissive of anyone here, I just don’t see it. A question was posed, as I noted, with a laughing emoji after it by StevieDreamer. Folks, understandably did not know whether he was serious with his question or not. Folks asked why it mattered, in my interpretation, genuinely wanting to know why it mattered to this promoter. As my response stated, I greatly appreciated StevieDreamer’s response about why it mattered to him, and it provided insight I would not have had without the question being asked. Isn’t that something positive from a genuine question? When you give your opinion calling others rude and intolerant, Bear, you cannot not expect them to respond. You are basically stating that these individuals, I assume myself included, are rude and intolerant. You understand why they want to go round and round with you? If I am intending to be rude and intolerant, I’d own it. Again, I say it, we have real honest to God HATE and INTOLERANCE of the LBGTQ+ community and we are truly calling others in this his community to rude and intolerant. I just don’t get it. |
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Post by bear805 on Jun 9, 2024 20:36:03 GMT -5
malicelover ~KB~ "Emperor Norton" (Mark T) executioner 1)Are we really feeding into this? I guess my questioned would be, why does it matter? Why should everything revolve around who someone has physical relations with or what set of reproductive parts they have? Should it matter? These questions should've never been asked in the first place. The fact the one promoter created the thread is proof that it did matter to at least one person and possibly more. If the thread wasn't a topic you were interested in then you should have ignored it and moved on. You may not have realized(or maybe you did and just didn't care) that this question is used time and time again by hateful antiLGBTQA+ bigots to try and silence the voice of the LGBTQA+ community when they attempt to have any sort of discussion. 2)Why would anyone be so sex obsessed about a game that has nothing to do with sex? I'm sorry but you can't tell me this wasn't a hateful personal attack on the creator of the thread 3) "So much pretend "tolerance" by promoters on here." "Of course pal. You have always demonstrated you are the paragon of tolerance and virtue---as long as people agree with you. Please let me know what threads I am allowed to visit and comment on? Do I need your permission to comment? Enjoy your fake virtue, mate!" "Your comments have not been positive or contributed to the game." "Be honest, this is only being raised so one person can get attention and the rest can feel better about themselves." "I am not the one trying to smother discussion. I can name the ones that are." "Honestly, what impact does this "month" have to do with this game? If you want to put your politics into your game, go for it. No need to compel or guilt others into doing so." "While you are at it, how about you represent the military, veterans, or law enforcement. Or don't they matter." "I am sorry you cannot fathom discussion in your imaginary belief you are tolerant." all examples of the gaslighting in the thread. blaming us for being intolerant and stifling discussion when we are just trying to keep the hate and negativity out of the thread. so you can agree or disagree I don't care. I see it and others see it.
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Post by steviedreamer on Jun 9, 2024 21:07:06 GMT -5
I am a proud father of a transgender teen, and she is a joy. Pride Month, June, is something we have been celebrating in our house since she came out at 7. I have also been a huge pro wrestling fan since the 80s as well as a fan of COTG since 1987 (been playing on and off and non-stop since then). So< I agree with Bear and others here when they say that this post concerning LGBTQ+ wrestlers up and down the years of the GWF interests me. It is a community that needs time just like any other community that is marginalized. All I wanted was a conversation about, well, wrestlers like Actagon and Proteus, Alphs Female, Vanity and Killer Queen, and some other wrestlers who MAY be a part of the rainbow community. And let me tell you that it is a beautiful and wonderful and kind community that seems to be marginalized and, as of late, trounced on. I know, as my daughter has been through heaven and hell in her young transition. I feel that Bear's powerful tpost quoting the so-called 'tolerant' comments is in on point. There seem to be many haters here, homophobic or otherwise. Every community should be represented in COTG. Did any of you that purchase the Edith Surreal or Gisele Shaw card... or were there any comments on here about those cards? How about when the swastika was etched on Adam Patriot's arm in plain sight on a card, a hate symbol that heralded the murder of 8,000,000 souls?? I don't think any promoters complained about that, but as soon as the LGBTQ+ community is brought up here as represented in the game, y'all go red eye. Why is that? My question was not about sex to whoever was ignorant (dumb) to pose that reply. It was about which wrestlers throughout GWF history are a party of the LGBTQ+ community. Kudos goes out to promoters like the Mystical Budo, Bear (applause), Pete, and others who are tolerant and smart enough to know that pro-wrestling and science fiction mirror society. And, KB, tsk tsk. I don't care what goes on behind Taechon's bedroom door. It's not for me to call. Read the original post. If you didn't care or were not interested, then you should have moved on. It seems that that slice of America that is really ultra-conservative and who wants to take away the rights of individuals under the Constitution (although not on the level of the Aethran government)is very prevalent here. Yes, you have a voice just like anyone else, but please keep the self-service to yourself. Representation is important. Lord Nexus was well represented in the first set, and Tom (when he is not Dark Menacing) does an excellent job of representing all races and cultures with equity. So why not the LGBTQ+ community? I am very confident that my daughter will make changes and waves in her life (headed off to college next year) no matter what the sentinents. COTG is not just a game. It's a representation of all. Thanks again nto the promoters who were forthright and kept tjios positive, but who support the rights of freedom. As to the other antiquated ideas and opinions, there is nothing I can say. In the meantime, Happy Pride!  |
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Post by steviedreamer on Jun 9, 2024 21:10:32 GMT -5
And by the way, it was garbage what Oklahoma did to Nyla Rose...
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